From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: beware of "Courier-IMAP" Date: 2000/03/10 Message-ID: #1/1 References: <952743004.663111@shelley.paradise.net.nz> To: Nicholas Lee Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Complaints-To: help@cac.washington.edu X-Trace: nntp6.u.washington.edu 952755111 44364 (None) 140.142.17.40 Organization: Networks & Distributed Computing Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.mail.imap NNTP-Posting-User: paul There is no misrepresentation. The facts are clear: 1) Courier-IMAP rejected an atom with a [ character. 2) The vendor of Courier-IMAP claims that it is a client bug (in my code, no less) to send an atom with a [ character. 3) The vendor of Courier-IMAP acknowledges that the IMAP specification permits this, but states "I'm not going to insert a bunch of spaghetti code, and break something, just to comply with completely nonsensical portions of IMAP4rev1." I have an obligation to report non-compliant servers and defiant vendors who refuse to implement the specification. It is unfair to the dozens of other vendors -- all of whom implement IMAP according to specification -- to be burdened by bug reports caused by a vendor who openly defies the specification and claims that everybody else is wrong. It has also come to my attention that he posts a so-called "client bugs" list, which misrepresent problems in his server (or simply his failure to understand IMAP) as being bugs in various clients. On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Nicholas Lee wrote: > I must say that I'm rather displease that you have posted these comments (to > myself from the author of Courier imap that I was discussing with you > privately) to an open forum. > > In fact I'd say it was rather irresponible and out of context. I might even > go so far as to say you are misrepresenting the discussion and using > bully-boy tactics. -- Mark -- * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.